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Luna “held out to beat out Burchett” as Secrets chair, Chair Grothman tells us (unpaywalled)
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Luna “held out to beat out Burchett” as Secrets chair, Chair Grothman tells us (unpaywalled)

Ep. 396 — Rep. Glenn Grothman (7-23-2025)
Men in suits sit listening in expansive room as people on dais speak. Photo: Matt Laslo © www.askapol.com
Rep. Glenn Grothman chairing 2023 public Oversight Committee hearing with UFO whistleblower David Grusch. Photo: Matt Laslo

Who?

Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI) — Chair, Oversight National Security Subcommittee*

*Grothman chaired the House Oversight Committee’s public UAP hearing with UFO whistleblower David Grusch in 2023

LISTEN: Laslo & Grothman I — RAW, uncut

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Ask a Pol asked:

Do you know the status of your bipartisan Safe Airspace for Americans Act? Any bills coming up that you can see attaching it to? Or is the problem solved?

Key Grothman:

”No. I don’t think the problem’s solved,” Rep. Glenn Grothman exclusively told Ask a Pol UAP. “Call my office.”

“I don’t know if it’s a priority.”

Partisan creep watch:

Some Democrats say it feels like Republican congressional leaders are throwing cold water on UAPs this Congress…

I don’t know if that’s true,” Grothman said. “They haven’t told me why.”

Yeah?

“Obviously, Congresswoman [Anna Paulina] Luna held out to beat out [Tim] Burchett,” Grothman continued. “So you’d have to ask her.”*

*again…believe us we’ve asked around...

LISTEN: Laslo & Grothman II — Overproduced*

*Grothman seems to deploy a quiet voice and almost inaudible mutters as a comms strategy to deflect the pesky press corps, so we played around with Adobe Podcast (beta, we believe) to try and amplify him while cutting through background noise.

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Caught our ear:

Is your measure with Rep. Robert Garcia (D-CA) still a priority?

“We want to get it done,” Grothman told us. “I don’t know if it’s a priority, but we’d like to, maybe, attach it to something.”

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Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive interview with Rep. Glenn Grothman (D-WI), slightly edited for clarity.

TRANSCRIPT: Rep. Glenn Grothman (7-23-2025)

SCENE: In July, when Congress was still in session, Rep. Glenn Grothman had just voted on the floor of the US House of Representatives when Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo started chatting the congressman up while walking back to his office across the street from the US Capitol.

Matt Laslo: “Hey, how are you sir?”

Glenn Grothman: “Fine.”

ML: “Do you know what's up with your Safe Airspace for Americans Act?”

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GG: “Umm — what do you think?”

ML: “What’s that?”

GG: “Why are you asking?”

ML: “Just curious if there’s any movement? Any bills coming up that you can see attaching it to?”

Grothman stares ahead and says nothing.

ML: “Or is the problem solved?”

GG: “No, I don’t think the problem’s solved.”

ML: “Yeah?”

GG: “I’ll a — call my office.”

ML: “Yeah? But no update on it?”

GG: “No.”

ML: “Is it still a priority?”

GG: “Well, we want to get it done.”

ML: “Yeah?”

GG: “I don’t know if it’s a priority, but we’d like to, maybe, attach it to something.”

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ML: “Maybe a transportation bill or…?”

GG: “Could be. That would be an ideal place.”

ML: “Yeah? But not going to be for a while?”

Grothman shakes head no.

ML: “Have you — any reason why the UAP issue hasn’t really come up this Congress? And there hasn’t been public hearings yet?”

GG: “I think they had one, didn’t they?”

ML: “What’s that?”

GG: “They had one, didn’t they?”

ML: “Not this year. It was last year at the end.”

ICYMI — Last public UAP hearing Nov. 13, 2024

ML: “Some Democrats say it feels like Republican leaders are trying to quiet the issue but…”

GG: “Umm — I don’t know if that’s true.”

ML: “Yeah?”

GG: “They haven’t told me why.”

ML: “Yeah?”

GG: “Obviously, Congresswoman [Anna Paulina] Luna held out to beat out [Tim] Burchett...”

ML: “Yeah?”

ICYMI — Secrets Chair Luna was on Joe Rogan this week

GG: “…amongst committee members — so you’d have to ask her. I thought we had it earlier this summer.”

ML: “At least I’ll check. I don’t even know. This has been a busy year, sir.”

Laslo laughs…

GG: “Right.”

ML: “I could be wrong on that.”

GG: “There was a hearing in January.”

Laslo scrolls through phone.

ML: “Oh Mace had hers in [November],* so after the election but before the new Congress.”

*OOPS: Sen. Gillibrand chaired Dec. 2024 UAP hearing

GG: [Inaudible]

ML: “Yeah. The in between times. Well hey, have a good August if I don’t see you.”

GG: “Sorry.”

ML: “Oh, it’s all good. You have a good one.”

Spencer Newman and Ewoud Storm van ‘s Gravesande contributed to this report.

“Call my office.”

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