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Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) — Co-chair, Congressional UAP Caucus
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Ask a Pol asks:
With all the attention now on how vulnerable America’s skies are, why not ask for a UAP [unidentified aerial phenomenon] / UAS [unmanned aerial systems] Committee?
Key Luna:
“So that would be a Select Committee from the speaker. We asked for that,” Rep. Anna Paulina Luna exclusively tells Ask a Pol. “What I'm more interested in is that you have the AG, the incoming FBI, the Secretary of State who led UAP investigations, Marco Rubio, who I have a feeling, will get confirmed…It’s an era of transparency.”*
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ICYMI — Ongoing discussion of a Select UAP Committee
Drones over military bases:
“I think that you should shoot that shit down,” Luna says. “That's my opinion on that. If I were in charge, I'd give the automatic keep down order.”
Caught our ear:
“I think they’re selective in what they're saying, right?” Luna tells us of the Pentagon’s lack of a response to drone sightings.
Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive interview with Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL), slightly edited for clarity.
TRANSCRIPT: Rep. Anna Paulina Luna
SCENE: After casting her last vote of 2024, Luna walked down the Capitol steps where Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo and other congressional reporters were huddling in the brisk 30 degree evening.
After discussing the government funding measure and Speaker Mike Johnson’s future, Laslo got her to weigh in on the drone debate and what her expectations are for disclosure in the new year.
Matt Laslo: “UAPs / the drone issue...”
Anna Paulina Luna: “Oh, I've been saying that I didn't think that it was, I mean, I said that, you know how we've been stonewalled on this? I don't think it's a UAP invasion, okay?”
ML: “Yeah.”
APL: “But I do think that instead of the Pentagon hiding the ball, they should just be transparent.”
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ML: “But should Americans be worried our trillion dollar a year military has no idea what’s flying in our skies?”
APL: “Well, I think they’re selective in what they're saying, right?”
ML: “Fair.”
APL: “So we’ll see what ends up happening. But I will tell you that right now not just in the United States, but you're seeing all different attacks around the world, that drones are defeating some of the most high tech technology, because they are so tiny.”
ML: “Yeah.”
APL: “And ultimately, with the advancement of technology, that we can film, things might be taken out of context, whatever it is, but I will tell you that under no shape or form should you have anything traversing the United States — automatic shoot down.”
ML: “Yeah?”
APL: “You should have nothing flying near military installations.”
ML: “Yeah?”
APL: “That should be shot down. I don't care what it is. Obviously, we also saw, I think, videos of people posting sped up airplanes flying into Laguardia. That was clearly not UAPs. It was ridiculous.”
ML: “But, like, [Sen. Kirsten] Gillibrand, Sen. [Mark] Kelly, [Sen. Tim] Kaine — they've often complaining about stuff over their air bases and the military has no idea what they are.”
APL: “Well, I think that you should shoot that shit down.”
ML: “Yeah?”
APL: “That's my opinion on that. If I were in charge, I'd give the automatic keep down order.”
ML: “And last question, do you feel like this helps, like getting the attention on this? Like, why not do a UAP/UAS Committee?”
APL: “So that would be a select committee from the speaker. We asked for that.”
ML: “Yeah.”
APL: “What I'm more interested in is that you have the AG, the incoming FBI, the Secretary of State who led UAP investigations, Marco Rubio, who I have a feeling, will get confirmed.”
ML: “Yeah, yeah. He’s liked.”
APL: “So I just don't think that — it’s an era of transparency.”
ML: “That we’re about to enter into?”
APL: “Yeah. But again, I mean, you guys are seeing the sausage being made in real time. So it’s kinda cool. Thank you.”
ML: “Preciate ya, ma'am.”
APL: “Merry Christmas.”
ML: “Merry Christmas.”
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Here is an extremely interesting U.S. government UFO document.
https://ufointel.substack.com/p/us-government-ufo-document-video
Transparency would be nice, and the more information provided by the executive branch the better. However, aside from past such hopes being disappointed, there’s the larger issue brought forth by Grusch that there are USAPs hidden from Congress and illegally financed. Not to mention that there has been illegal disinformation campaigns. Congress must reassert its authority of oversight and budgetary control, and should not merely trust the executive branch, no matter who is in charge. This is a Constitutional issue, not political.
It would fall on Intel and Armed Services committees, not Oversight. Since establishment Warhawks Wicker, Cotton, Turner, and Rogers aren’t transparent with or directly obfuscating anything classified regarding UAP, and with Rubio on his way to the State Dept, it is going to fall on the Executive branch to dig up the dirty secrets.
Politics aside, I think Gabbard, Hegseth, Ratcliffe, Waltz, Rubio, RFK, Patel, Bondi, Ramaswamy, and Musk are being instructed to clean out the trash in the executive bureaucracy. With the exception of Rubio, they are all very anti-establishment and have little reason to maintain the status quo.
If you’ve been paying attention, there is an entire coalition of big tech (Thiel, Sacks, Musk, Altman, Bezos, Karp, Zuckerberg, etc)-adjacent appointees in this new administration. Palantir, Anduril, SpaceX, and OpenAI are forming a coalition to challenge legacy contractors (Boeing, Lockheed, etc.) for bringing the defense-intelligence complex into the future to outpace China. (Fun fact: This is also happening with commerce/treasury as it pertains to crypto).
Coincidentally, Former Congressman Mike Gallagher has been named head of defense at Palantir. Thiel definitely is informed on this subject and wants his hands on that tech, IMO. I think we’re in for an exciting 4 years.
P.S. come back to Twitter, J.
By oversight I meant the general legislative function rather than the committee. To me Big Tech versus Old Aerospace is like watching King Kong battle Godzilla. It’s entertaining, but no matter who wins Tokyo is going to be rubble. This struggle is about who controls the goodies, in other words money and power. How do we know Big Tech will be any less possessive of information than Big Aerospace? I don’t see a reason to believe they would be. That’s why we can’t depend on the executive branch to police itself, any more than we can depend on AARO to investigate what the DoD has covered up for decades. Congress as an institution (and yes, perhaps especially the Gang of Eight) has been sidelined, or sidelined itself (through passing the buck and looking for contributors’ bucks) by not demanding accountability and transparency from the DoD, IC, and DoE on UAP. The institutional authority of Congress has been eroded and undermined. To restore it, the initiative must come from Congress itself. They must investigate and take action. Waiting on the executive to be given the truth on a silver platter is to sanction a relationship of subordination and dependency. I think this is unhealthy. A bird has to flap its own wings (speaking of Twitter 😆).
Fair enough. We’ll leave it at ‘to be determined’. I’m cautiously optimistic with the incoming cabinet members. If nothing comes from the new administration post-investigation, I’m going to assume there are some seriously disturbing aspects to the truth which might actually destabilize society in a real way, controlled disclosure or not.
I always assumed that the truth, even to the extent that it could be revealed, would be destabilizing, both philosophically and culturally. Somber, as Lue put it. But it’s not easy to infer who or what they would be protecting from being disturbed by continuing to conceal that truth.
I appreciate her not rubber stamping the UAP designation on these drones just yet. Luna is ex-USAF, so she knows her stuff.