Who?
Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO) — Task Force on Declassification of Federal Secrets
LISTEN: Laslo & Burlison
Ask a Pol asks:
What do you make of claims from former AARO Director Tim Phillips that the UAP Caucus has been locked out of classified Special Access Programs — SAPs — by Oversight Chair James Comer and Speaker Mike Johnson?
Key Burlison:
“I've reached out to Comer and to Johnson, neither one of them remember this at all,” Rep. Eric Burlison exclusively tells Ask a Pol.
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Will new White House policy on classified info hurt UAP?
After the Iran bombing campaign, Axios is reporting the White House wants to cut Congress off from classified info because of all the leaks. Do you think that could hurt your ongoing UAP investigation?
“I get it, you can't trust every member of Congress,” Burlison says. “The point is, like, if you're gonna put me in a position where I have a responsibility to to be a part of this investigation, this task force, give me the tools and the information I need.
“Or else don't. Or just eliminate the whole thing and then you can save my time altogether.”
Caught our ear, per Mexico trip:
What was your takeaway from seeing the Buga Sphere in Mexico last week?
“I'm not convinced that any of those artifacts are real. They're very intriguing to look at. They're very interesting,” Burlison tells us.
“When I asked [David] Grusch about it, he didn't really know much about the sphere, but he told me that there's some tridactyl type of — I think that's what they call them, tridactyls — those ‘mummies’ that are down there, particularly in Peru, that he thinks that they are consistent with the things that he's been briefed on.”
Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive interview with Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO), slightly edited for clarity.
TRANSCRIPT: Rep. Eric Burlison (6-26-2025)
SCENE: Rep. Eric Burlison’s walking to the US Capitol when Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo joins him.
Matt Laslo: Why’d you travel to Mexico?
Eric Burlison: “Went to go — you know!”
ML: “Yeah — what, like, were you talking to lawmakers down there and they invited you?”
EB: “I had spoken, learned that there was some scientists that were headed down there that they're working — I'm not gonna.”
ML: “Yeah.”
EB: “But yeah, they — and so, and I asked Grusch about it, about the Buga Sphere? What do you call it?”
ML: “Yeah.”
EB: “…and about whether it's worthwhile to go down there. And I happen to have the time to do it…”
ML: “Yeah?”
EB: “…because it was an odd week where we were in the district, and my family — my kids were at church camp.”
ML: “Oh nice.”
EB: “My wife was at a work conference.”
ML: “Oh nice.”
EB: “So it's either sit at home or fund raise.”
Laslo laughs.
EB: “And I just thought, you know what this is. This is an opportunity you'll probably never have again. It'll be an interesting story, at the least.”
ML: “Yeah. What’d you make it? What was your takeaway?”
EB: “I'm not convinced that any of those artifacts are real.”
ML: “Yeah?”
EB: “They're very intriguing to look at. They're very interesting.”
ML: “Yeah?”
EB: “When I asked Grusch about it, he didn't really know much about the sphere, but he said that — he told me that there's some tridactyl type of — I think that's what they call them, tridactyls — that those, those ‘mummies’ that are down there, particularly in Peru, that he thinks that they are consistent with the things that he's been briefed on.”
ML: “Interesting.”
EB: “And so that was — to me, that was worthwhile to go see that.”
ML: “Did you meet any lawmakers down there?”
EB: “No.”
ML: “No? What do you think of the White House kind of curtailing the classified info that Congress gets? Is that gonna hit the UAP issue?”
EB: “I've reached out to Comer and to Johnson. Neither one of them remember this at all.”
ML: “Yeah?”
EB: “So we'll find out.”
ML: “Yeah?”
EB: “We’re looking into it.”
ML: “Well, and this is more post-Iran, the White House says that they want to cut off classified info from Congress because of all the leaks.”
EB: “Okay?”
ML: “Do you think that could hurt the UAP issue and that investigation?”
EB: “What are you talking about? Which? What now?”
ML: “After the Iran — look at the, Axios had a piece on it…”
Laslo pulls article up on his phone and shows it to Burlison.
ML: “‘SCOOP — Trump to limit sharing of classified info…’”
EB: “Yeah, because you can't, like, I get it, you can't trust every member of Congress.”
ML: “Yeah?”
EB: “But I do think that you’ve given us the responsibility…”
ML: “Your [[closed-door, GOP] conference meetings go out live.”*
*fuckin Jake Sherman…
EB: “The point is, like, if you're gonna give, put me in a position where I have a responsibility to to be a part of this investigation, this task force. Why? You know, give me the tools and the information I need.”
ML: “Yeah.”
EB: “Or else don't. Like, or just eliminate the whole thing and then you can save my time altogether.”
ML: “Do you think the Secrets Task Force might be carved out if they do a broader policy, because it seems like they're freaking out about the wars and the attack on Iran, not so much other issues.”
EB: “Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just focused on those issues.”
ML: “Yeah.”
EB: “I gotta go vote.”
ML: “Yes sir. Preciate ya!”
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