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“I don’t,” Intel Co-chair Mark Warner denies knowing Immaculate Constellation (unpaywalled)
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“I don’t,” Intel Co-chair Mark Warner denies knowing Immaculate Constellation (unpaywalled)

Ep. 363 — Sen. Mark Warner (5-21-2025)
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Senate Intel Committee - or SSCI - Co-chair Mark Warner rides tram underneath US Capitol. Photo: Matt Laslo
SSCI Co-chair Mark Warner rides tram underneath US Capitol. Photo: Matt Laslo

Who?

Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) — Co-chair, Senate Intelligence Committee

LISTEN: Laslo & Warner I (less produced)*

*apologies in advance — quick interview and LOUD cart in Senate basement. Below find a slightly more produced version you may find easier to hear on…

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Ask a Pol asks:

Does the phrase ‘immaculate constellation’ ring any bells to you?

Key Warner: 

“How could a constellation be ‘maculate’?” Warner quips to Ask a Pol.

There's a new UAP whistleblower, Matthew Brown, who says that they briefed you all — or your staff — on this program.

“I don’t,” Warner says.*

*when Ask a Pol followed up with Warner’s office we were told, “short answer is no comment.”

Reply to Ask a Pol’s question from Warner’s office.

LISTEN: Laslo & Warner II (easier listening)

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Caught our ear:

“I don’t recall,” Warner told Ask a Pol.*

*FLASHBACK: Reminds us of this government classic…

Source: Center for American Progress, April 20, 2007.

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Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive interview with Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA), slightly edited for clarity.

Sen. John Fetterman (black hoodie on left) and Senate Intel Co-chair Mark Warner walk in opposite directions Photo: Matt Laslo
Sen. John Fetterman (black hoodie on left) and Senate Intel Co-chair Mark Warner (suit center) walk in opposite directions in Capitol basement after Warner walked away from Ask a Pol interview (5-21-2025). Photo: Matt Laslo

TRANSCRIPT: Sen. Mark Warner (5-21-2025)

SCENE: Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo is mostly trained on the two Senate trams running underneath the US Capitol when, out of the corner of his eye, he notices Sen. Mark Warner’s entering the basement from the Capitol Visitors Center entrance — where one of the Senate SCIF’s is located.

And Senator Warner’s alone — a rarity since Ask a Pol was launched in 2023 — so Laslo scurries up to him, cutting off his colleugues with questions for the powerful Virginian…

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Matt Laslo: “Look at this, young man.”

Mark Warner: “How are you?”

ML: “Does the phrase ‘immaculate constellation’ ring any bells to you?”

MW: “How could a constellation be ‘maculate’?”

Laslo laughs.

ML: “But there's a new UAP whistleblower, Matthew Brown, who says that they briefed you all — or your staff — on this program.”

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MW: “I don’t.”

Senate kitchen staff starts rolling a cart through the Capitol’s basement.

MW: “But can you get me later on?”

ML: “Yeah?”

MW: “I don’t. I do not recall.”

ML: “Do you remember the name ‘David Grusch’?”

MW: “Pardon me?”

ML: “The name ‘David Grusch’ — he was the whistleblower last year that came out…”

MW: “I remember that name at least.”*

*Message us or comment if you think you know what he says. We have a hunch ourselves…but we don’t publish hunches.**

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ML: “He's been hired by the House to help with their investigation. What do you make of that?”

MW: “John…”

Warner sees Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) and proceeds to wisper something to him before jetting to an elevator — never even saying ‘goodbye’ to Ask a Pol…

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Joseph Felser's avatar

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Matt Laslo's avatar

Solid comment!

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Joseph Felser's avatar

Monkey see, monkey do!

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Robert Salas's avatar

Is Warner clueless or just pretending to be clueless?

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Alex Katz's avatar

I would wager the latter…

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KnowingIs1/2TheBattle's avatar

Wouldn’t the former also include illegality?

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Matt Laslo's avatar

Meh. Police officers are legally allowed to lie. So I imagine Gang of 8 just live lies.... or something like that...

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KnowingIs1/2TheBattle's avatar

Disillusioned idealism breeds cynicism. The world’s too complicated for you dear little citizen. Trust Dear Mother Executive and Her Agents. They know better than YOU and without any oversight to boot 😝

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Rex Tinch's avatar

I am reminded of a postman shaking his leg at a blue heeler...."Git! Git!"

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Catchickenchic's avatar

Does the term "worthless government" ring any bells here? Lol. I'm sorry. These guys just don't get much at all. Unless it's shiny and gold and adds weight to his bank account, he's not gonna care much.

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Jack Powell's avatar

Wouldn't it be refreashing if a politician just said. "Yea I know about it and its fucked up".

J.L. Powell

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Joshua Bertrand (korea_ufo)'s avatar

That’s what we call “avoidance”. 😹

Good job sending the follow up to his staffers Las. 🙏

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Joseph Felser's avatar

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