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Whistleblowers report materials "they did not know what it was from,” Sen. Rounds says
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Whistleblowers report materials "they did not know what it was from,” Sen. Rounds says

Ep. 384 — Sen. Mike Rounds (7-15-2025)
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Aides trapped on a temporarily broke down, conductorless underground US Senate tram car look to the first car containing Sens. Rounds and Risch. Photo Matt Laslo

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Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD) — Armed Services & Intelligence Committees

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Ask a Pol asks:

Have you talked to any whistleblowers who’ve claimed to see recovered craft?

Key Rounds:

“I’ve talked to individuals who have seen materials that they were analyzing,” Sen. Mike Rounds exclusively tells Ask a Pol UAPs, “but they did not know what it was from.”

Have you asked to go see that yourself?

“No,” Rounds says. “Where would I go to ask?”

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Lockheed Martin?

“A lot of it, I suspect, is part of stealth materials that have been developed by different organizations within the federal government,” Rounds says.

Lockheed Martin has come up recently — that they might have some of this technology?

“Well, they have stealth technology, just like some others do,” Rounds says. “Look, I just simply don’t know.”

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Caught our ear:

“People say ‘what about, you know, UAPs and so forth,’ I say ‘I don’t know,’ but I would be foolish to say that they don't exist because I don’t know,” Rounds tells us.

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Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive interview with Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD), slightly edited for clarity.

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Underground US Senate tram. Photo: Matt Laslo

Transcript: Sen. Mike Rounds (7-15-2025)

Scene: Sen. Mike Rounds and Foreign Relations Committee Chair Jim Risch are stuck for a few minutes on the same broke down robotic, condcutorless underground Senate tram as Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo.

Once the trams start rolling again, Laslo darts out of the last car and greets Rounds and Risch as they exit the first car.

Matt Laslo: “I thought we were gonna be stuck on there forever because of you two.”

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Trapped on a stuck Senate tram, Sens. Rounds and Risch look for help on ‘platform’ ahead. Photo: Matt Laslo

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Sens. Mike Rounds & Jim Risch: “No.”

Laslo laughs.

Risch: “We blamed it on you.”

Rounds: “Yeah, we knew it.”

Laslo: “Fair, fair.”

Rounds: “We knew it.”

Risch: “I was told it was you that did it.”

Laslo: “It is always the press’ fault.”

Laslo laughs.

Rounds: “…put your hand in and stopped it, right?”

Rounds laughs.

ML: “Have you…?”

Laslo and Rounds start heading towards the Capitol.

ML: “There’s been some questions raised about you…”

MR: “Uh oh.”

ML: “…since your interview with Mr…”

Laslo gets out of the way to let a senator hop on the escalator first.

ML: “…Ross Coulthart down in Australia. What do you know about the advanced drone program?”

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MR: “The advanced drone program?”

ML: “Yeah.”

MR: “Not heard of it referred to in that category.”*

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ML: “I know there’s different fancy names for it, but that’s Washington speak.”

MR: “I don’t know what…”

ML: “Have you talked to any whistleblowers who’ve seen or claimed to see recovered craft?”

MR: “I’ve talked to individuals who have seen materials that they were analyzing, but they did not know what it was from.”

ML: “Have you asked to go see that yourself?”

MR: “No.”

ML: “Why not? Not believable? Or…?”

MR: “Where would I go to ask?”

ML: “You’re a senator, you get to do what you want.”

Senators Only elevator arrives.

MR: “But the question is, who would have it? And, you know, a lot of it’s been years back.”

Rounds and Laslo enter elevator.

MR: “And a lot of it, I suspect, is part of stealth materials that have been developed by different organizations within the federal government.”

ML: “Yeah? Well some folks — like, Lockheed Martin keeps coming up in talks…”

MR: “Ahuh.”

ML: “…that Lockheed might have some of this technology?”

MR: “Well, they have stealth technology, just like some others do. But, I don't — look, I just simply don’t know.”

ML: “Yeah.”

MR: “And people say ‘what about, you know, UAPs and so forth,’ I say ‘I don’t know,’ but I would be foolish to say that they don't exist because I don’t know.”

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They exit elevator on 2nd floor of Capitol.

ML: “Yeah.”

Rounds heads towards Senate floor to vote.

Reporter: “Senator Rounds I have a public radio station question…”

ML: “Fair Fair.”

Rounds turns towards other reporter.

MR: “What?”

Reporter: “Would making changes to the rescissions bill…”

Candace Taggart contributed to this report.

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Discussion about this episode

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Joshua Bertrand (korea_ufo)'s avatar

Drones? What drones? Ohhh you mean the drones we paid billions of dollars to develop that were then simply stolen by the CCP and are now sold by DJI?

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Joseph Felser's avatar

🤔🤨 Maybe since he chatted with Ross you can ask Rounds if he’s heard that the Tic Tac is Lockheed-Martin tech.

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Rex Tinch's avatar

Matt - Please check this out starting at 16.58....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg1IqbTg66s

Coulthart states Rounds/his staff has taken 1st hand witness testimony (Barber) in a scif. Confront him with this the next time you cross his path, please.

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LK's avatar

Well well well

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