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Rep. Norman says Lue Elizondo "absolutely" corroborated David Grusch
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Rep. Norman says Lue Elizondo "absolutely" corroborated David Grusch

Ep. 181 — Rep. Ralph Norman (2-15-2024)
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Rep. Ralph Norman talks to NewsNation and Ask a Pol outside the SCIF Thursday, Feb. 15, 2024. Photo: Matt Laslo

UFO whistleblower David Grusch has a powerful new ally on Capitol Hill.

We ran into Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) as he was leaving the House SCIF [sensitive compartmented information facility] this morning. Our colleagues at NewsNation — and no other reporters — were there, so, as you’ll hear, before our exclusive interview with him, Ask a Pol founder Matt Laslo invited Norman over to talk to their camera.

Ask a Pol mostly listened to NewsNation and Norman discuss the classified material Intelligence Committee Chair Mike Turner made available to all members of the House of Representatives this week on Russia’s space program (which we’ve confirmed from other sources; not Rep. Norman).

Then Ask a Pol walked away with Norman where we inquired about the briefing the Conservative Opportunity Society received Wednesday from Lue Elizondo, two pilots — one who’s a veteran combat pilot who “took pictures,” according to Norman — and a scientist.

“It’s been portrayed by the media as crazies that are identifying unidentified flying objects, but it’s not,” Norman exclusively told Ask a Pol. “He’s been doing this 30-some years. Combat veteran. Very qualified. I’m gonna have him back. In fact, we may open it up. Everybody ought — y’all ought to know it — everybody should.”

“I heard he corroborated what the whistleblower, David Grusch, testified to this summer?” Laslo inquired.

“Absolutely,” Norman replied to Ask a Pol. “Yes.”

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Matt Laslo: “So I heard that you had a little visitor yesterday. Lue Elizondo?” 

Ralph Norman: “Oh yeah.”

ML: “That you brought him in? What made you reach out or get connected with him?” 

RN: “I had heard — well, I’d heard about him. One, he's an expert. And that's another thing, I'm gonna bring him back. Everybody, you young people over here, particularly, because we've got a real problem. This isn’t playland. He told us about the facts of the matter about what's happening. And that too, was concerning. And he wouldn't give any classified things, as you would expect, but my God, it's, I guess, we're just gonna be unprepared and just take it. This isn't political. This isn't politics for you, young people. Of course, it affects all of us, young and old.”

ML: “Do you — what was the heart of his talk? Was it on SAPs, Special Access Programs?”

RN: “Yeah.”

ML: “Or was it broader?”

RN: “It was broad. He spoke for 20 minutes. At COS we start at eight, he talks for 20 minutes, and then we ask him questions. And, you know, where's the funding coming from from the government? It's been portrayed by the media as crazies that are identifying, you know, unidentified flying objects, but it’s not. He’s been doing this 30-some years. Combat veteran. Very qualified. I’m gonna have him back. In fact, we may open it up. Everybody ought — y’all ought to know it — everybody should.”

ML: “Public? Even Dems?” 

RN: “Yeah.”

ML: “Interesting. Because I heard he corroborated what the whistleblower, David Grusch, testified to this summer?”

RN: “Yeah.”

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