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Sen. Rounds: "there's [UAP] stuff in the NDAA," but fate of Schumer's UAPDA unclear
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Sen. Rounds: "there's [UAP] stuff in the NDAA," but fate of Schumer's UAPDA unclear

Ep. 297 — Sen. Mike Rounds (12-4-2024)
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Sen. Mike Rounds addresses press corps as Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer listens on (2023). Photo: Matt Laslo

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Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD) — Armed Services & Intelligence Committees

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Ask a Pol asks:

How was your recent meeting with the new head of AARO — the Pentagon’s All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office — Dr. Jon Kosloski?

Key Rounds:

“It was good. I think he’s technically very adept. I was impressed with him. He clearly has had some opportunities made available to him to visit with different people,” Sen. Mike Rounds exclusively tells Ask a Pol.

Do you think he can regain — or gain the trust of whistleblowers?

“Yet to be determined,” Rounds says. “We'll have to wait for someone to come back and tell us that.”

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UAPDA in NDAA?

Is your UAPDA with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer gonna make this year’s National Defense Authorization Act — NDAA — or is it gonna end up on the cutting room floor again?

“We met and we haven’t gone that far at this point,” Rounds says. “Meaning, there's [UAP] stuff in the NDAA, but I don't know whether it's what you're concerned with.”

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Incoming Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) enters the Senate SCIF Wednesday for an All-Senate classified Salt Typhoon briefing. Photo: Matt Laslo

Caught our ear:

“There’s clearly a phenomenon which is real,” Rounds tells us. “We just don't know who this real phenomenon belongs to.”

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Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive interview with Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD), slightly edited for clarity.

TRANSCRIPT: Sen. Mike Rounds

SCENE: Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo’s walking past a tram underneath the US Capitol when he spots Sen. Rounds and two aides in one of the cars, so he hops on at the last moment.

Mike Rounds: “Hey, you made it!”

Rounds’ Aide: “How you?”

Senate tram with an unforgiving door that will close on you if you’re not quick! Photo: Matt Laslo

Matt Laslo: “Miserable — but I’m a political reporter, so that’s on me.”

Rounds and aides laugh.

MR: “What do you mean? Target rich environment, ain’t it?”

Rounds laughs.

ML: “Remember, I'm also a professor of government at John Hopkins.”

MR: “I didn't know that.”

Tram doors lunge closed.

ML: “So my heart breaks your daily. I teach in our MA program, where I did my MA.”

MR: “You teach what?”

ML: “History of the media, history of politics, with an eye towards how politicians and the media have — and have not — adapted to new mediums overtime.”

MR: “You mean ‘policymakers'.”

Rounds laughs.

ML: “Yeah.”

MR: “Yeah.”

ML: “No, I call us part of the political whatever — the political industrial complex.”

MR: “Yeah? It may not be pretty, but it's still the best process.”

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ML: “Yeah. Fair. Did you — were you just at one of the classified briefings?”

MR: “Yeah.”

ML: “You were at the one with [Director of National Intelligence Avril] Haines?”

MR: “Yeah.”

ML: “On China?”

MR: “Yeah.”

ML: “Because Booker and Warner told me that there was also going to be one on UAPs and the incursions they've been seeing over New Jersey, but also Langley.”

MR: “I wasn’t in that one.”

ML: “Yep? I don't think they were either. How did your meeting recently go with the new head of AARO?”

MR: “It was good.”

ML: “Yeah? What do you think of them?”

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