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Sen. Kaine: NDAA empowers Pentagon to shoot UAP down over bases like Langley
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Sen. Kaine: NDAA empowers Pentagon to shoot UAP down over bases like Langley

Ep. 416 — Sen. Tim Kaine (10-21-2025)
Sen. Tim Kaine answers Ask a Pol founder Matt Laslo’s questions on one of the US Senate’s underground trams. Photo: Logan Johnson

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Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA) — Member, Armed Services Committee

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Ask a Pol asks:

Have you gotten any update on the UAP — or “drone swarms,” as most policymakers say — that shut Langley Air Force Base down in 2023?

Key Kaine:

“No, no,” Sen. Tim Kaine exclusively tells Ask a Pol. ”Bottom line is the radar — we’ve discovered some things in the last couple of years. Radar does a better job at picking up fast things than slow things and large things than small things.”

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ICYMI — Kaine’s pressed for Langley answers for years

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Were you able to address that in this year’s NDAA — or National Defense Authorization Act?

“There were a couple, yes,” Kaine tells us. “The COUNTER Act that Sen. [Kirsten] Gillibrand and [Senate Intelligence Committee Chair Tom] Cotton put in, I think would help them address it.”

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Press release announcing introduction of COUNTER Act from May 2025. Source: Sen. Tom Cotton’s team

But that’ll give clarity to the Pentagon for bases like Langley?

“Yes,” Kaine says.

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Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA), slightly edited for clarity.

TRANSCRIPT: Sen. Tim Kaine (10-21-2025)

SCENE: Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo hops an elevator in the US Capitol basement with Sen. Tim Kaine.

Matt Laslo: “Hey how are you, sir.”

Tim Kaine: “Good.”

M.L.: “Mind if I hop up with ya?”

T.K.: “Yeah.”

Kaine motions for Laslo to join him on the Senators Only elevator.

M.L.: “Anything fun in the SCIF?”

Kaine had just left a classified SCIF briefing with other Senators on the Armed Services Committee.

T.K.: “Not really.”

M.L.: “Have you gotten any update on Langley?”

T.K.: “Which?”

M.L.: “What shut Langley down in 2023?”

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T.K.: “They — no, no.”

M.L.: “Yeah?”

T.K.: “I mean, bottom line is the radar — we’ve discovered some things in the last couple of years. Radar does a better job at picking up fast things than slow things and large things than small things.”

M.L.: “Yeah? Were you able to address that in this year’s NDAA?”

T.K.: “There were a couple, yes. The COUNTER Act that Sen. [Kirsten] Gillibrand and [Senate Intelligence Committee Chair Tom] Cotton put in, I think would help them address it. This was a hearing just about this new structure.”

ICYMI — details on their effort in the NDAA

M.L.: “But that’ll give clarity to the Pentagon, to bases like Langley?”

T.K.: “Yes.”

M.L.: “Yeah?”

Kaine nods affirmativey.

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