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Sen. Gillibrand unaware of new AARO director — even after he testified before her subcommittee
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Sen. Gillibrand unaware of new AARO director — even after he testified before her subcommittee

Ep. 373 — Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (6-18-2025)
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Senators sit on a dais as a witness prepares to testify at US Capitol. Photo Matt Laslo © AskaPol.com
AARO Director Jon Kosloski testifying before the Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats & Capabilities chaired by Sen. Gillibrand Nov. 19, 2024. Photo: Matt Laslo

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Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) — Chair, Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats & Capabilities / Chair, Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC)

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Ask a Pol asks:

Have you had a chance to look at that Wall Street Journal article on the Air Force?

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“No,” Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand exclusively tells Ask a Pol. “I read the first quarter of it, but I didn’t finish it so I’ll read the rest and give you a comment.”

Wall Street Journal article (unpaywalled via MSN):

Source: Wall Street Journal via MSN, June 6, 2025.

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Caught our ear:

Have you had any meetings with AARO — the Pentagon’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office — this year?

“Not yet. We were waiting for a new head,” Gillibrand tells us.

They’ve got him now.

“Oh, I’ll meet with him right away,” Gillibrand says of AARO Director Jon Kosloski, who testified before her Armed Services subcommittee in November.

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Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive interview with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), slightly edited for clarity.

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TRANSCRIPT: Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (6-18-2025)

SCENE: Ahead of a vote, Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo’s staking out the first floor Carriage Entrance of the US Senate when Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand and two aides come around the corner…

Matt Laslo: “Have you had a chance to look at that Wall Street Journal article on the Air Force?”

Kirsten Gillibrand: “No.”

An aide carries Chairwoman Gillibrand’s briefing book after AARO Director Jon Kosloski testified Nov. 19, 2024. Photo: Matt Laslo

ML: “Check it out.”

KG: “Will you send it to him, please?”

ML: “Yeah.”

Aide: “I’ve read it. It was a long piece.”

ML: “Yeah — deep dive.”

Aide: “I’ll tell you all about it.”

KG: “About, about the UAPs?”

ML: “Yeah — the Air Force program.”

KG: “I read the first quarter of it, but I didn’t finish it so I’ll read...”

Aide: “I read the whole thing...”

KG: “…I’ll read the rest and give you a comment.”

ML: “Have you had any meetings with AARO [All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office] this year?”

KG: “Not yet. We were waiting for a new head, so…”

ICYMI — AARO Director Jon Kosloski testified before Gillibrand last fall

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ML: “They’ve got him now.”

KG: “Oh, I’ll meet with him right away.”

ML: “Yeah?”

KG: “Thank you for the heads up.”

ML: “Cool. Cool.”

The senator and her aides start to walk away.

ML: “‘Preciate y’all.”

Logan Johnson contributed to this report.

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Discussion about this episode

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Abbas Michael Dharamsey's avatar

This gave me huge VEEP vibes. Did you hear her bag man whispering your name in her ears as you were walking up to her?

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Matt Laslo's avatar

hahahaha - amaze

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Valters Lauzums's avatar

Thank you! Could you please ask her if she has gotten updates from the ICIG on their UAP whistleblower investigations? 😇

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Matt Laslo's avatar

Seriously. I don't know if she even can define 'UAP' these days.

I'm strategically giving senators space til after their July 4th recess, especially Gillibrand (listen carefully, her staffer wants to stab me...actually, no, he did - numerous times with his dismissive eyes...).

Reconciliation -- 'big beautiful bill' -- has officially sucked all the oxygen out of this town, even before Trump bombed Iran...

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Valters Lauzums's avatar

Thank you for putting up the good fight and asking the hard questions. Seriously no-one else is doing this. Keep up the amazing work!

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Rex Tinch's avatar

Gillibrand and Susan Gough are secretly fraternal twins.

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Jake Harrelson's avatar

You're the best, Matt. Thank you for all that you (and your skilled internist team) do for government transparency!

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RhondaLord's avatar

Disappointing.

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