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Hans Jensen's avatar

yes why does it all stay so secreet why are Congrees affraid to pass the 2025 UAPDA [ UAP Disclosure Act] in this year’s NDAA [National Defense Authorization Act]?” Are they all being paid off?

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Brian Barcikowski's avatar

Laslo is asking the right questions. Congress doesnt know. I'm sorry but, Congress should know why congressional bills aren't getting passed.

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Matt Laslo's avatar

Right!?!

Full. Fucking. Stop. YOU’RE CONGRESS!!!! Dammit.

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Abbas Michael Dharamsey's avatar

Matt, you’ve gone to both sides of congress and asked almost everyone who’s involved or who’s been alleged to be blocking it. What’s your take? What do you think is happening that keeps preventing UAPDA from becoming law?

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Matt Laslo's avatar

Who even f’n cares what I think — how the f*ck do the principals not even know who’s 🔪 is out 3 years in a row now!?!?

I do expect Members will get more clarity (if they care to) on this question without Turner in power this ground.

At a minimum, it narrows options on this shitty congressional Clue board…

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Joseph Felser's avatar

It was Colonel Mustard in the library with a dagger. 🗡️

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Matt Laslo's avatar

Preach!

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Joseph Felser's avatar

I think you have to be a forensic accountant (or else have video of someone grabbing the bags of cash🤣) to solve this mystery, because I always go back to Deep Throat’s sage advice to Bob Woodward: “Follow the money.”

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Beth's avatar

That's why I've wondered for a while now whether this isn't a battle of the donors: Silicon Valley wanting Congress to beat up the MIC for access to UAP-derived innovation — and meeting heavy covert resistance because no one wants to talk about it.

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Matt Laslo's avatar

🧐

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Joseph Felser's avatar

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. Ever since Karl Nell appeared at the SALT iConnections conference last year and Alex Klokus became involved in Skywatcher it’s been clear that the main conflict was between Wall Street/Tech who want in and the Legacy Program ensconced in the MIC. Some limited disclosure might be useful to the newcomers as a strategic move to pry open the vaults of the LP, but ultimately they want custody of “the goodies,” as George Knapp refers to them, and to control the narrative. IMHO it would not amount to genuine Disclosure. As The Who sang long ago, “Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.”

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Beth's avatar

I'm with you on that. Much of the focus in hearings, podcasts, and other discussions involves whistleblowers with potential knowledge about tech presumably controlled by legacy programs. All that has very little to do with what most people would consider disclosure, and likely has almost nothing to do with the nature of the phenomenon itself. If "disclosure" boils down to little more than the claim-jumping frenzy of a 21st century gold rush, we might be better off with things left as they are.

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Matt Laslo's avatar

* hovering — and loving this convo fam

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Joseph Felser's avatar

Agreed. The fight over ownership of technology is ultimately all about money: control, power, force. But real Disclosure upends the old game of domination and changes everything. Who They are, why they’re here, and who we are and why we’re here—these are the real questions. But once that spigot is opened up, no one will be able to turn it off. And that’s the problem for the elites.

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Joshua Bertrand (korea_ufo)'s avatar

Minor correction for your transcript:

> ML: “[Sen. Mike] Rounds says it’s maybe the House that’s getting it.”

I think Laslo probably said "gutting it" not "getting it" based on context.

Love the reporting as always, *AND* the transcripts. First typo I think I've ever seen.

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