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"Both denied it," Secrets Task Force Chair confronts GOP leaders over AARO claims (unpaywalled)
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"Both denied it," Secrets Task Force Chair confronts GOP leaders over AARO claims (unpaywalled)

Ep. 374 — Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (6-24-2025)
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Rep. Anna Paulina Luna and Congressional UAP Caucus address congressional press corps in 2023. Photo: Matt Laslo

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Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) — Chair, Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets

LISTEN: Laslo & Luna

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Ask a Pol asks:

What do you make of former AARO Director Tim Phillips alleging US House Speaker Mike Johnson and Oversight Chair James Comer denied — “they felt they did not have a need to know” — the Congressional UAP Caucus access to SAPs?

Key Luna:

“We actually just asked people about that,” US House Secrets Task Force Chair Anna Paulina Luna exclusively tells Ask a Pol. “They both denied it.”*

*STAY TUNED: New Ask a Pol exclusive w/ Oversight Chair James Comer dropping this week…

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But I also, too, don't really like AARO’s response on it, so I've told people* that I think AARO needs to have their funds redirected,” Luna tells us.

ICYMI — *Luna tells Ask a Pol first cause we’re always there

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Below find two rough transcripts of Ask a Pol’s interviews with Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL), slightly edited for clarity.

TRANSCRIPT: Chair Anna Paulina Luna (6-24-2025)

SCENE: After voting on the House floor, Secrets Task Force Chair Anna Paulina Luna is heading down the Capitol steps talking to a reporter.

Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo waits in the wings and catches up to her once she’s at ground level, traversing a sea of lawmakers’ — and their aides’ — cars, which make the Capitol grounds feel like a sports arena after a match ended every time the House wraps a vote series.

They chat for a minute before Chair Luna ditches Ask a Pol for a Fox News crew…

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Matt Laslo: “Hey, how are you congresswoman?”

Anna Paulina Luna: “Hey.”

ML: “What do you…”

Luna’s on her phone messaging an aide…

APL: “Still looking for my car.”

it’s a drippingly humid summer day in the swamp.

ML: “It’s hot.”

APL: “It’s a beautiful — oh, there it is.”

ML: “What do you make of this report from Tim Phillips that you guys weren't allowed to see the SAPs in a SCIF because of GOP leadership?”

APL: “Oh, we actually just asked people about that, so…”

They traverse reporters and lawmakers.

APL: “…they both denied it, the people that we asked about it, so…”

ML: “Yeah? So you're not…?”

APL: “But I also, too, don't really like AARO’s response on it, so I've told people that I think AARO needs to have their funds redirected.”

“Makes us reconsider AARO," Secrets Chair Luna says after FBI UAP briefing

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“Makes us reconsider AARO," Secrets Chair Luna says after FBI UAP briefing

Who? Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) — Chair, Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets

Fox Crew Cut: “Hi.”

APL: “Hey, how are ya?”

FCC: “Quick question — Fox News…”

Bleach blonde J Crew bro smiles to himself (or so he thought…), half surprised, as his cameraperson instantly sets up.

cc: “…I wanted to ask you about…”*

Laslo proceeds to interview a half dozen lawmakers.**

*ROOKIE LEAGUE BULLSH*T: Never broadcast to your subject you’re about to ask a question — be human and just ask what’s on your mind. - Prof. Laslo

**We find Chairwoman Luna the following day too. Stay tuned for that and other fresh Ask a Pol UAPs exclusives dropping from now through July 4th...

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UnSecret Archive's avatar

I wish Philips would have named these Congressional leaders (maybe he does in a longer version of the interview?) It could have been the chairs of the Intel and/or Armed Services committees. I’m not sure Comer would have the authority to deny anyone SAP access, he probably doesn’t have access himself.

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Catchickenchic's avatar

I wonder who she actually asked. Be really curious to see if she really had the push to get the funding cut. I highly doubt it but I try to hope. Thank Matt, we 'preciate you more!

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Joseph Felser's avatar

The Mick and Tim show. It’s so funny how these ex-AARO heads (Tim and Sean) crawl out of the woodwork at almost exactly the same time to spread their wisdom to ready vessels like Mick West and the Wall Street Journal (presumably to discourage all those investors anxious to get a piece of the UAP pie), just when there’s some Congressional action. It’s almost like synchronized swimming 🏊, no? Esther Williams would be proud!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5HufDgwD4w

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J Dziak's avatar

So essentially it’s confirmed that the Trump administration doesn’t actually want the secrets task force to investigate secrets. They want the perception they are investigating secrets. Luna is running cover by making AARO the scapegoat. This is all theater folks. The first clue was when the DOJ went around the secrets task force to release “the Epstein files”. https://signaltheory.substack.com/p/the-ufo-community-is-being-playedand?r=3h3n0

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J Dziak's avatar

Notice that by casting AARO as the bad guy, the Trump administration has been able to bring the UFO community into their version of reality. Basically, AARO is evil, so if they say it, it must be false, and whatever Luna and the Trump administration say must be true.

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UnSecret Archive's avatar

Agreed, but AARO was also made to be the bad guy by the UFO community from day one. Matt Ford, Chris Mellon and David Grusch all took their shots at AARO (some fair and some unfair in my opinion), which ensured they wouldn’t receive blowback from the community if they didn’t cooperate with AARO.

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J Dziak's avatar

Right agree but I’m also not trying to defend AARO other than to say that we shouldn’t look at this as a good vs bad drama and instead use critical thinking to analyze the information minus the characters (who are all intelligence agents and politicians)

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